I posted a question under My Cafe / Discuss a couple of days ago. Someone has somehow edited my original post so that it is now spam, and they have added additional spam comments that link back to my user account. I have looked in my history and unlike regular wikia edits, there does not appear to be a way for me to edit these comments, even though I am logged in. I am hoping you can help.
The discussion I am having difficulty with is called, "Question about pyramid and gems: when to purchase?" It originally was a question about that topic and someone is now using it to promote joining their township.
While we usually have edit, revert, and history tools, I do not see those options available for discussions.
Thank you in advance for any assistance you can provide.
I don't know what to tell you as I don't see what you're talking about. To me, your post is unchanged, it is in the correct category and there is no spam comment. You are correct that we don't have history tools for discussions and even as an admin I don't have access to much. I can delete and report things and normally see deleted/reported items. I don't see anything in this case so I'm completely baffled. Either you were able to intervene or someone else did or something really weird was going on! Do you still see issues with this post?
Thank you for responding. Yes, I do still see issues with this post.
When I view it, the post (which I did not write) reads as follows: "Let's Cafe_Win is currently in the Lemon League and is looking for members who want to work together to Cafe WIN together (emoji here) Join TODAY (emoji here)
The title still appears as I originally titled it, "Question about pyramid and gems: When to purchase?"
Wow! This is really weird. To me, these are two distinct posts. I deleted the township ad because the exact same one had been posted just a few days ago so this post does exist but it has nothing to do with yours. I think this is a question for Fandom Support because it seems to me this is caused by some display or cache issues.
Hi Melicent, Thank you for your response. Can you please provide screenshots of the "two distinct posts" that you mention and links to them? I will quote you so we can reach a better understanding.
A. You state, "To me, these are two distinct posts." Can you please post screenshots of these two "distinct posts" that you refer to? What I currently view in this thread that we are discussing here https://my-cafe.fandom.com/f/p/3277943308550644317 are three items. I will list them below:
1. My original post, which was removed and replaced by the screenshot which I previously provided you with in my earlier post, which now reads ""Let's Cafe_Win is currently in the Lemon League and is looking for members who want to work together to Cafe WIN together (strongarm emoji here) Join TODAY (coffee cup emoji here). -- This is the one post of the three that has been altered. This post still shows in its altered version regardless of which device or browser I use and regardless of clearing cookies or cache.
2. A legitimate response (comment) to my original post from GabbyG123. That post is fine, and it was there as a legitimate response to my original post. (See screenshot attached)
3. A response (comment) from me to GabbyG123's post. (See screenshot attached)
I will include #2 and #3 as screenshots below.
B. You also stated:
"I deleted the township ad because the exact same one had been posted just a few days ago so this post does exist but it has nothing to do with yours."
Yes, I had noticed this exact township ad listed. At one point, I actually saw it listed multiple times, but I now only see it listed by one person, Sfields92, in addition to it being listed as my post. Sfields92's township ad is a separate post thread which can be filtered under "Townships." Mine is a Q&A post.
I will attach a screenshot of Sfields92 township ad, which is identical to my current post.
"... it seems to me this is caused by some display or cache issues."
I do not believe it is either display or cache issues.
I have checked this on multiple browsers and multiple devices, and it shows up the same way for me in: Laptop/Desktop, iPad, iPhone on Safari, Chrome, Firefox, Puffin. This is why I am asking you to please post screenshots, so together we can determine which two posts you are referring to.
Based on the fact that I have cleared my browser cache and my original post still displays as the screenshot I attached two posts above, I am curious to see a screenshot of what you view when you view that post.
Thank you. It seems to only want one screenshot per post, so I will attach each screenshot.
Lastly, for more clarification, here is a screenshot as I view it of the main Discussion page located at this link https://my-cafe.fandom.com/f showing my post above your post. Your post has the title "Free Supercake Display Case."
Thanks for the screenshots. I'll provide ones too although it may take me some time as I'm on vacation and I don't have my usual laptop (and my data is limited so I'm being careful). I still wanted to let you know I have read your messages.
I'm wondering if you would be interested in having the Community Page activated on this wiki. It could possibly encourage some visitors to become new editors here, and therefore increase wiki activity. It can also direct user efforts to where their help is needed most. Let me know if you're interested in this feature, and I can arrange to have it set up. :) - Sitb(Message wall / Talk page) 02:56, June 15, 2019 (UTC)
I thought I would reach out to you, since you are the only active administrator here. I have recently been appointed as the Fandom Wiki Manager for this wiki. I am here to assist this community in an official capacity and act as a liaison between you, and full-time Fandom staff. If you, or any other users of this wiki ever have an issue or question related to the wiki (editing, templates, wiki design, or any other matters), please feel free to contact me on my message wall, and I will assist in any way I can.
As one last additional message, you may want to consider how hard someone else has worked before shitting over that work with your contribution comments. I put a lot of work into the content I added on here and to see negative comments like better phrasing or to make it less copy pasta, etc, is beyond rude. I will refrain from any further contributions obviously, and I only removed the images that I have uploaded. I would try and remove the text I added, but since it is clearly not to your standards, I am sure that will be taken care of soon enough.
Hi. Could we talk calmly and politely please? I've obviously offended you and hurt you, which has never been my intention, and I would like to clear this up if it's possible. Could you list all the things you're having an issue with because I'm a bit at a loss here. 'Less copy pasta' was because it was exactly what the game page says on the Play Store so it was copy paste indeed. If you think it's best to say this than rephrase it please say so and let's revert this change. I won't be offended at all. I'm used to having things changed all the time but this doesn't mean everybody reacts the same way, which is perfectly understandable. As for 'better phrasing' I think I've only said that about edits *I* had made. Again let me know if I'm wrong. I've checked my contribution history but I may have missed something.
P.S. Forgot to say that if I've ignored a policy, told or untold, about what is acceptable to do without consulting other editors or admins or bureaucrats I would like to know too. Again it has never been my intention to step on anyone's toes. I can't know if I'm doing it if nobody tells me so. Nicely preferably. I have feelings too and I only try and do what I believe is best for the wiki and the players. I really, really don't care if it has my username attached to it.
While I had not been especially active the last few months, when I came across this wiki, there was virtually very little in terms of information and formatting, and I spent time and effort creating the photos and pulling information together to help fill it out. Then almost right after I messaged about saying how I was coming back, I start getting message after message about files I had worked on or uploaded being replaced or changed, and seeing comments about the information I had filled out being replaced and it did feel like a slap in the face to be honest. And it very much makes me not want to have anything to do with the wiki, which is why I removed the images that I personally uploaded to add. If I could remove the text I added without potentially removing someone else's work as well, then I would have done that too, but I was not interested in harming other's work, only removing my own efforts to improve the site.
When I came across this wiki it seemed mostly inactive and abandoned as far as content and maintenance were concerned. There were several irrelevant pages, lots of unused files, lots of blurb/duplicate articles, several key missing articles, uncategorized pages, uncategorized photos. There was no wordmark, no favicon, no banner image. The main page had some pictures which linked to nothing. There were missing characters. Lots of images had names which would be unclear to newcomers. It did not use several recent features such as portable infoboxes, discussions, new galleries - still doesn't for some. The main mobile page hadn't been set up, still isn't. Some pages used HTLM and inline CSS coding instead of wikitext and CSS classes, making them bigger, longer to load, harder to update. There were old offensive comments. I saw that there was some activity but it was mostly comments, forum discussions and spam/vandalism. I didn't know who the bureaucrats or admins were. I didn't look them up but some editors/admins were still monitoring things which was a very good thing. I did my own thing and waited to see if it was ok. It seemed so. Then I got promoted out of the blue and started doing basic maintenance because that's how I roll. If you give me admin powers I'm gonna use them to make maintenance and editing easier (easier in my opinion) so more editors can contribute and the wiki is easy to take over if bureaucrats diseappear or retire. It's my number 1 priority as an admin.
When I got your message, I didn't know who you were or what you planned on doing. I continued to do basic maintenance, to try and make the wiki easier to maintain, and to add missing content.
1) I replaced the images for each ingredient with pictures from the official website because they were better quality. This has nothing to do with the quality of your work; I didn't even know it was yours. Concept art from the game makers is always nicer looking because it's the best quality you can have, without any compression or whatever. I maintain the Hay Day wiki and all our screenshots are regularly replaced by art given to us by Supercell Community Managers. Some editors, including me, often worked very hard on them. Hours spent on Photoshop cropping, removing backgrounds by hand, adding drop shadows, even making difficult composite images. That doesn't matter because art from the game is better and bigger and we're doing this for the players, no us, and this is a collaborative project. Things are going to change all the time.
2) I replaced the images in recipes because I thought it was easier to use individual images than recipe images. Using recipe images means you have to unlock the recipe, then screenshot it then upload it. Editors who haven't unlocked the recipe can't contribute even when the ingredients are listed. It also meant having images where ingredients looked sometimes small and sometimes big. I'm not particularly happy with the way recipes look now. I think the images are too small but at least we can add images for all recipes even if they're not unlocked at our level.
There are probably other things I've changed and I can explain why if you want me too. Same thing regarding information. I don't know what you refer to. I mean I don't know who wrote what. I think I try to explain what I do in contribution summaries but if there's something you don't like, feel free to change it.
I understand why you'd be upset to see that lots of your work has been replaced or changed but I don't understand why you would want to punish readers by removing text you've written or images you've uploaded. If you think any of the changes I've made or the things have written are *bad* for the wiki, again feel free to change it. As I said before I don't care who wrote what or who did what. To me it's really not the point of a wiki and of a collaborative project. Besides, everything but proprietary images is licensed under CC-BY-SA on wikias. It can be used and modified by anyone. It can be reproduced exactly as-is on other websites or in apps as long as they credit the wiki. Editors retain intellectual copyright but it's not really ours in any way, which is why admins can restore content.
P.S. Sorry for the addition but I've just realized I made it seem like I didn't think anyone's work mattered or that there hadn't been any work on this wiki. This is not what I think at all. Everybody's work matters a lot and I was delighted to find this wiki and to see all the info it already had. You did an amazing job. Other editors did an amazing job. There's no doubt in my mind about it and I'm not making changes because I think you or other people didn't. When I say I want to make something easier it's not because I think it isn't good. I think I may come to wiki editing with a different angle than you do. What do you think?
You can quote whatever you want, and it is true I know that. I never made comment that it wasn't. I simply expressed that I wished to have nothing to do with the wikia, and since I, unfortunately, am unable to remove the images I uploaded, then I will just be about my way have nothing more to do with you or the wikia.
I think this it what you get instead of the IP address to identify some anonymous users. I'm not quite sure what it corresponds to. Looks like a MAC address so maybe the one of the device or the router they've used or something like that. The problem with IPs and MAC addresses is that they can sometimes get used by other users (like in a public café, a university,...) so it's hard to know who you're banning exactly. However, the only other alternative is simply to forbid anonymous users in the wiki settings.